aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 So, as far as i understand, it's OK to write in english here? This forum seems to have a lot of the more "serious" growers out there so as the wildchilli forum seems a bit dead at the moment, i end up reading this forum more and more often even though i speak zero words of Italian and reading it trough google translator is not exactly a pleasant experience. I thought i might as well start a grow log here also. I'm a 30 year old chilli enthusiast from Finland with an interest in wild species and plant breeding. This is my fourth season growing chillies. Without further introduction, lets just start with listing my this years varieties, starting with the chinenses: C. chinense BGH 1725 / PI 441624 C. chinense CGN 21498 C. chinense CGN 22207 C. chinense GRIF 9192 / PI 645486 C. chinense GRIF 9197 C. chinense GRIF 9292 C. chinense GRIF 9297 C. chinense GRIF 9300 C. chinense PI 257132 C. chinense PI 257145 C. chinense PI 315022 C. chinense PI 315030 Some of the GRIF-varieties are marked as frutescenses and annuums but don't look like it, it might be that there's some hybrids or such in these. I'll keep these in the chinense-list for as long as i get fruits and can make a more educated guess about their species as i don't really much trust the information provided in the GRIN database. Last year i grew very few domesticated baccatums and at the end of the season i thought this was utterly stupid, as i really like the taste and heat of this species. This year i seem to have made the same mistake again and only germinated a few: C. baccatum Aji Amarillo, Large C. baccatum Aji Omnicolor C. baccatum PI 260560 C. baccatum PI 260567 C. baccatum PI 439370 C. baccatum PI 441550 I'm really not that fond of C. annuums, but grow a bunch still as there's an immense amount of variation in the species. These are pretty much just for my breeding experiments, and have been selected due to some interesting trait they possess: C. annuum CAP 1546 C. annuum Chilly Chili C. annuum Chinese Five Colour C. annuum Fish Pepper C. annuum Jalapeno TAM C. annuum Joe's Long C. annuum Mushroom Yellow C. annuum Peter Pepper C. annuum Prairie Fire C. annuum Purira C. annuum Riot C. annuum Spagna Sweet peppers are a must, both for hybridization and for eating: C. annuum Barancio C. annuum Belozjorka C. annuum Corbaci C. annuum Jimmy Nardello C. annuum Jumbo Sweet F1 C. annuum Marconi Rosso C. annuum Oda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Last year i grew a bunch of C. chacoenses and it turned out to be a rather interesting species with quite a bit of variation in it. Sadly all my varieties were CAP-varieties which do not have any proper information about their collection area or such. This year i'm trying this species again, but with a bit more properly selected set of varieties: C. chacoense CGN 22083 C. chacoense CGN 23208 C. chacoense PI 260427 C. chacoense PI 260435 C. chacoense PI 439414 C. chacoense PI 560944 C. chacoense PI 639653 The distribution area of this species is actually quite large. During seed trades i've collected varieties for which the original collection area is known and germinated them so, that i'd get varieties from as large area as possible. Should be interesting to study these plants knowing where they're from, and trying to figure out which morfological traits show up in varieties from which area. PI 439414 is some semi-cultivated variety without any proper information about it's origins so it didn't make it to the map, i guess i germinated it accidentally but i'll grow it anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 I haven't actually grown a single tepin before. This year i'm trying with several: C. annuum var. glabriusculum Florida Wild Bird C. annuum var. glabriusculum PI 511885, Chihuahua, Mexico C. annuum var. glabriusculum PI 593491, Mexico C. annuum var. glabriusculum Sonoran Chiltepin, Mexico C. annuum var. glabriusculum Tepin, Eastern Travis County, Texas C. annuum var. glabriusculum Tepin, Peru C. annuum var. glabriusculum Tepin, Tarahumara, Mexico C. annuum var. glabriusculum Tepin, Williamson County, Texas (Wild collected seeds, no picture) C. annuum var. glabriusculum UC Davis tepin, Peru C. annuum var. glabriusculum CGN 23200 (Turrialba, Costa Rica) With these i've also germinated only varieties for which the collection area is known. Didn't do a map for these as with many varieties the collection area is a bit ambiguous (i.e. "Florida" or "Peru") Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 I've also germinated some other varieties just because they seemed interesting: C. praetermissum BGH 460 / PI 441654 C. baccatum var. baccatum CAP 306 C. eximium CAP 1491 C. eximium CGN 21502 C. flexuosum PI 631154 C. pubescens Rocoto Peru Cusco C. sp. TC07246 / PI 606708 (Marked as C. tovarii but is not) C. sp. "Unknown praetermissumlike species or hybrid" Sadly, no C. tovarii. Had seeds from several different sources, but didn't manage to get a healthy seedling from any of them. If anyone has seeds of it, i'm still up for trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 And on top of these, i also have my collection of overwintered plants from past years: C. annuum "Candlelight mutant" C. chacoense "var. exile" C. chacoense CAP 477 C. chacoense CAP 499 C. chinense CAP 691 'Red Fire' C. chinense CAP 1451 C. chinense CAP 1531 C. chinense Cheiro Recife C. chinense Cumari do Para C. chinense Naga Morich (2010) C. eximium CAP 470 C. eximium CGN 19198 C. frutescens CAP 1455 C. galapagoense C. lanceolatum C. pubescens PI 593622 'Super Pube' C. rhomboideum PI 645680 C. sp. CAP 872 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 I'm extremely interested in plant breeding and last year i hybridized a bunch of plants. From these hybrids, i've managed to germinate and grow the following: annuum × annuum Apache F2/F3 × Chokoladka F1 #1 annuum × annuum Apache F2/F3 × Chokoladka F1 #2 annuum × annuum Esplendor × Chokoladka F1 #1 annuum × annuum Esplendor × Chokoladka F1 #2 baccatum var. pendulum × baccatum var. baccatum Lemon Drop × NOT Topgirl F1 baccatum var. umbilicatum × baccatum var. pendulum Jamaican Bell × Lemon Drop F1 baccatum × baccatum Lemon Drop × PI 439380 F1 chinense × annuum Habanero Market × Big Papa F1 chinense × chinense Limo × Habanero White Bullet F1 chinense × chinense NOT Goronong × CAP 1531 F1 chinense × chinense Peito de Moca × Limo F1 #1 chinense × chinense Peito de Moca × Limo F1 #2 chinense × chinense Peito de Moca × Limo F1 #3 chinense × chinense Peito de Moca × Limo F1 #4 chinense × chinense Peito de Moca × Limo F1 #5 Many of these have already proved to be true hybrids and not self-pollinated varieties: Apache F2/F3 × Chokoladka F1 #1 (annuum × annuum) Jamaican Bell × Lemon Drop F1 (baccatum var. umbilicatum × baccatum var. pendulum ) Peito de Moca × Limo F1 #5 (chinense × chinense) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 This year i'm also trying out hydroponics for the first time: Peito de Moca × Limo F1 #5 (chinense × chinense) I'm still having very mixed feelings about this growth method. The growth of the plants is several times more faster, but requires a lot more work and there's always something wrong with some of the plants, whereas plants growing in my peat/soil mix require very little attention or work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Fish Pepper (C. annuum) Haven't grown any variegated varieties before, will be interesting to see how this trait behaves in hybridization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 PI 593491 (C. annuum var. glabriusculum) First Tepin flower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Spagna (C. annuum) An ornamental that has an interesting growth habit. The plant grew to a height of about 40cm (15 inches) just like any regular annuum, but started branching very heavily after that and formed this mess of branches in the top. Is there something wrong with this plant like a virus, or is this just a variety trait? i guess time will tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 PI 439370 (C. baccatum) This one has the most vine-ish growth habit i've seen. I have several plants of this variety and none of them can stand up on their own at all, they just crawl on the ground if i don't tie them up. GRIN database claims that this one was collected from Bulgaria in 1978. I'm pretty sure this must be a mistake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Esplendor × Chokoladka F1 #1 (annuum × annuum) One of the hybrids that didn't pan out, or at least i'm not seeing any traits from the "Chokoladka" sweet pepper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Oda (C. annuum) A rather pretty sweet pepper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Jalapeno TAM (C. annuum) The only annuum that i actually grow for it's fruits and not it's traits, but i still end up trying to hybridize it. The fruit on the right was pollinated with CAP 1531 (C. chinense) after emasculation. I can't even imagine what a cross between a Jalapeno type and a wild chinense would look like, but maybe we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Chinese Five-color (C. annuum) This ornamental variety is ready for pollination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 CGN 22207 (C. chinense) CGN 22207 (C. chinense) Haven't stumbled upon these hairy chinenses before, but i'm told that there's a few of them. I've only seen hairiness like this in C. galapagoense and some C. praetermissums. Will definitely try to use this one in hybrids also to see how this trait inherits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Unknown praetermissumlike (C. sp.) Unknown praetermissumlike (C. sp.) Unknown praetermissumlike (C. sp.) Unknown praetermissumlike (C. sp.) An uknown praetermissum (or something like it) from Lonewolf. No hairs at all in the stalk or branches, and very few and very tiny hairs in the leaves that one can't really even see without some optical apparatus. Several people still seem to think that this plant falls under the natural variation of C. praetermissum. Not so sure about this myself though, but i'll wait for fruits before making any more assumptions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Btw. should i also attach Italian (Google) translations to the posts i make or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fab977 13 Posted May 31, 2012 wow... very nice compliments aropupu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lonewolf 18,622 Posted May 31, 2012 WOW! Nice grow log and beautiful photos! I need some free time to read all carefully ... It's ok to write in English and Google translator isn't necessary (who don't understand English can use it by himself) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Those pictures were the newest from this season. I guess i might as well show off some of the older ones: Candlelight Mutant (C. annuum) A mutated ornamental pepper, that i already wrote about earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 "C. exile" (C. chacoense "var. exile") I cannot find any proper information about this form or sub-species or whatever this is supposed to be. The only information about it i can find is from Inferno's chilli pages that say the defining characteristic should be lack of calyx teeth. I dunno whether i got the wrong seeds but this one seems like a normal chaco to me. Anyone have any more info? haven't found a single reference to this from any of the academical research etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 C. lanceolatum C. lanceolatum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 Limo (C. chinense) PI 439380 (C. baccatum) These two were my definite favorites from last season. The latter variety looks almost like an ornamental, but is actually a great tasting baccatum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aropupu 3 Posted May 31, 2012 CAP 1531 (C. chinense) A wild chinense with a superb yield. Used this one in some hybrids to see whether i could transfer the yield to a variety with bigger fruits and also overwintered the plant to continue hybridizing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites