Oban 9,508 Posted August 11, 2019 Rocoto Big Brown X Rocopica OB03 (F1) OB01 C.eximium, CAP 1491 Ulupica da scoppiare sul palato come le Frizzi Pazzy.😛 Rocoto Big Brown X Rocoto Riesen Yellow (F1) OB03 Bhut Jolokia Solid Gold Rocoto Aji Oro Stanno allegando quasi tutti i fiori aperti, proprio nelle giornate di caldo torrido, i frutti dei C.pubescens solitamente impiegano dai 50 ai 90 giorni per crescere e maturare (dipende da molti fattori), dovrei essere in tempo per fare un bel raccolto. https://www.caputfrigoris.it/rete-meteo/avezzano nord/ 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 11, 2019 Rocopica OB29 X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB01 Judy's Blue Mystery X CAP 1478 (F1) Ghostly Jalapeno Frutti inizialmente eretti, crescendo diventano intermedi oppure penduli. Probabilmente si tratta di una scottatura quella presente su 2 o 3 frutti, visto che è presente da una decina di giorni e ancora le bacche non virano di colore. Del resto i semi sono puri e non c'è da aspettarsi il colore giallo da un incrocio tra due varietà storiche e stabili caratterizzate da frutti rossi. L'unica possibilità di vederli maturare gialli è la comparsa dei caratteri recessivi, ma solo se in passato non si è replicato in purezza e si è incrociato con una varietà dai frutti gialli. Un po' di colore non guasta mai. Bhut Jolokia CPI Shabu Shabu Rocoto Riesen Yellow X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB03 Qualche raggio di luce filtra di tanto in tanto. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 12, 2019 Con tutto questo caldo si scorgono misteriosi oggetti non identificati in aria, vedo "Li Lazzaritt" volare! Video su YouTube: FhYG6dMRGBM 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 14, 2019 NOT Leviathan Scorpion Gnarly Oppure c'è una minima possibilità che i frutti virino sul Chocolate o qualcosa di simile? Mannaggia, il frutto con la codina lunga lo avevo appositamente impollinato manualmente perché i frutti dovevano essere di colore marrone.😭 L'anno prossimo vado sul sicuro e metto a germinare semi puri di Bhut Jolokia Chocolate oppure Black Naga, uno più buono dell'altro! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 14, 2019 Bhut Jolokia CPI Rocoto Aji Oro Judy's Blue Mystery X CAP 1478 (F1) Jamy X Aji Amarillo (F1) OB01 Rocoto Big Brown X C.sp Rocoto Stolen Yellow X CAP 500 (F1) OB01 Rocoto Riesen Yellow X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB03 Rocoto Big Brown X Rocoto Riesen Yellow (F1) OB01 Shabu Shabu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 14, 2019 Rocoto Riesen Yellow X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB01 Ghostly Jalapeno Chiltepin Cappuccino X Bhut Jolokia Mulatto (F1) Jamy X Aji Amarillo (F1) OB02 Buoni, dal sapore simile all'Aji Amarillo di pezzatura più piccola ma pensavo che di questa varietà, ne tantomeno di Jamy, non ho mai avuto frutti maturi a fine Luglio, è l'unico aspetto che valuto positivamente di questo incrocio rispetto alle già perfette varietà classiche di partenza. C.eximium, CAP 1491 Tabasco Greenleaf Orange Ribbon Il primo frutto inizia a virare di colore, manca giusto il dettaglio più importante visto che il colore dei frutti, nei C.chinense ancor più delle altre specie, caratterizza tantissimo il sapore e l'aroma finale. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pepper Guru 645 Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Oban said: NOT Leviathan Scorpion Gnarly Or is there a slight chance that the fruits will look like chocolate or something? Damn, the fruit with the long tail I had specially pollinated it manually because the fruits had to be brown. 😭 Next year I'm on the safe side and I germinate pure seeds of Bhut Jolokia Chocolate or Black Naga, one better than the other! I also got two different results. Both of which are off pheno from intended. I ended up with a MINI Red Leviatian and a Chocolate Leviathan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, Pepper Guru said: I also got two different results. Both of which are off pheno from intended. I ended up with a MINI Red Leviatian and a Chocolate Leviathan. Thanks Rich, I don't know if it is due to the instability of this cross. Rather I think that the color is due to cross-pollination, the brown color is the first character of the phenotype to be lost, given the dominance of the "Red color of the fruit" gene. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pepper Guru 645 Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, Oban said: Thanks Rich, I don't know if it is two to the instability of this cross. Rather I think that the color is two to cross-pollination, the brown color is the first character Quite possible and very probable. I spoke with Justin and showed him all the variability in all the plants of his seeds that were sent my way this year. He has seen the chocolate from other growers, but I'm the first to get the mini bright red version. He grows completely Open pollinated so it is expected and welcomed honestly...I like seeing all the little surprises! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Pepper Guru said: Quite possible and very probable. I spoke with Justin and showed him all the variability in all the plants of his seeds that were sent my way this year. He has seen the chocolate from other growers, but I'm the first to get the mini bright red version. He grows completely Open pollinated so it is expected and welcomed honestly...I like seeing all the little surprises! Yes, I'm aware of this but I'm never happy with these surprises, although previously declared. If I want to cultivate any hybrid, which is even more unstable than the starting cross, it is enough for me to take any seed from non-isolated fruits grown by me in past years and cultivate it. From a professional seller of seeds my expectations are much higher for the final result, which is then the one that most interests the customer. I also understand that I've become too used to the pure seeds that we have here on PF: if I want to grow a chosen variety, I take the seeds and I have absolute guarantees to actually grown that cultivar. In the case of limited space on our cultivation lists It isn't a small thing. In this case, I still don't taste the flavor of the fruits to give a definitive judgment. In ALL the other past cases, the random hybrids from OP seeds have ALWAYS disappointed my "Great Expectations". 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pepper Guru 645 Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Oban said: Yes, I'm aware of this but I'm never happy with these surprises, although previously declared. If I want to cultivate any hybrid, which is even more unstable than the starting cross, it is enough for me to take any seed from non-isolated fruits. From a professional seller of vegetables and vegetables, my expectations are much higher than the final result, which is the one that most interests the customer. I also understand that I have here too PF: if I want to grow a chosen variety, I take the seeds and I have absolute guarantees to actually grown that cultivar. In the case of limited space on our cultivation lists It isn't a small thing. In this case, I still don't taste the flavor of fruit to give definitive judgment. In ALL the other cases, the random hybrids from OP seeds have ALWAYS disappointed my "Great Expectations". I completely understand. I have always agreed with that mentality. Admittedly, I have never bought a seed from any vendor before, and that mentality is half of the reason why. Not wanting to be disappointed. I would like to start seeing vendors and hobbyists alike isolating more and selecting for the proper or envisioned phenotype. This pandoras box has been opened now, and its our job to clean up within our own gardens. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 18, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 9:38 PM, Pepper Guru said: I completely understand. I have always agreed with that mentality. Admittedly, I have never bought a seed from any vendor before, and that mentality is half of the reason why. Not wanting to be disappointed. That of selling seeds is a free market, the important thing is to not perceive a serious minus as a plus to be trimmed to those who cultivate these OP seeds. Quote I would like to start seeing vendors and hobbyists alike isolating more and selecting for the proper or envisioned phenotype. Yes, something is changing, there are some vendors who starts to isolate the whole plants, others that grow in greenhouses where the effect of pollinating insects is reduced, many others have discovered the isolation of the varieties exclusively to carry on their crosses F2, F3, F4 but then continue to distribute only "OP seeds" of the same crosses or of historical varieties to those who keep their businesses upright, not exactly the maximum to aspire to. Quote This pandoras box has been opened now, and its our job to clean up within our own gardens. https://cpi.nmsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/2016/06/CageingArticle.full_.pdf Sometimes I go to read back this old article (1993! Although the bibliography refers to several years before) only to review those black and white images of the net cages: the furrow has been traced for a long time and if someone has no interest in following it, it's only for personal convenience. Glad to exchange a few words with you. Daniele Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 18, 2019 Evening Sun Alcuni lo stanno coltivando, i semi di questo girasole li potete richiedere presso l'Associazione. Per chi invece dell'Associazione PF collabora per la creazione di nuove schede per il DBPF.org ci penso io a dargli qualcosa di molto esclusivo e stabile. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 18, 2019 Shabu Shabu Rocopica OB29 X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB03 Ci sono frutti che misurano almeno il doppio di questi frutti maturi. Rocopica OB29 X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB01 Bhut Jolokia CPI Rocoto Riesen Yellow X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB02 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 18, 2019 NOT Bhut Jolokia White JW Rocoto Big Brown X C.sp Incrociato sicuramente con uno dei tanti Rocopica che coltivavo l'anno scorso. Assam Chiltepin Cappuccino X Bhut Jolokia Mulatto (F1) Judy's Blue Mystery X CAP 1478 (F1) Orange Ribbon Un arancione molto carico, spero si fermi a questo stadio di maturazione e non viri sul rosso. Rocoto Big Brown X Rocoto Riesen Yellow (F1) OB01 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex.87 142 Posted August 18, 2019 On 8/8/2019 at 10:51 AM, Oban said: Jalapeno Mammoth (F1) OB02 Jalapeno Tajin X Jalapeno Mammoth (F1) OB03 Jalapeno Tajin X Jalapeno Mammoth (F1) OB04 Jalapeno Mammoth X Jalapeno Tajin (F1) OB02 Jalapeno Mammoth X Jalapeno Tajin (F1) OB03 Ho una pianta partita da semi "mix" quelle bustine che regala Stefania negli ordini. Potrebbe essere uno di questi jalapeno ? Scusa se mi sono permesso di usare il tuo spazio 🤗 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmpman1974 504 Posted August 19, 2019 Your photography is just excellent. The grow log is quite the sight to review Oban. Great grow-out !! On the other hand, the amount of pollen your flowers produces is amazing as well as compared to mine. Conditions must be absolutely ideal. They are all literally dripping pollen in your photos. Chris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 21, 2019 On 8/18/2019 at 10:48 PM, Alex.87 said: Ho una pianta partita da semi "mix" quelle bustine che regala Stefania negli ordini. Potrebbe essere uno di questi jalapeno? Lo escludo, gli Jals che coltivo quest'anno sono incroci tra due distinte varietà di Jalapeno, incroci eseguiti da me nel 2018. Nelle bustine di semi omaggio, denominate "Mix Puro" vanno a finire esclusivamente semi PURI, si tratta quindi di semi varietà replicati in purezza mescolati casualmente, a causa di mescolamenti accidentali in fase di estrazione semi, semi in avanzo durante le fasi di imbustamento, semi di varietà delle quali disponiamo migliaia di semi. A meno di alcune scelte mirate e consapevoli, per alcune varietà o specie rare, o poco incrociabili, su Pepperfriends NON distribuiamo semi di incroci, di ibridi o di varietà storiche prodotte in libera impollinazione. Anche io ho contribuito personalmente con alcuni semi puri destinati al Mix Puro: più di una volta mi è successo di non annotare immediatamente il nome della varietà estratta e passati alcuni giorni è impossibile ricordare a memoria a quale cultivar appartiene, vanno a finire nella bustina Mix Puro e inviati a Verona, per essere distribuiti. Ad ogni modo quello che stai coltivando è sicuramente uno Jalapeno, difficile indicare con certezza quale varietà in particolare, ce ne sono parecchie dalle caratteristiche simili: http://www.pepperfriends.org/dbpf/aricerca.asp?specie=Capsicum sp.&varieta=jalapeno&orig=&tipo=&piccantezza=&colore=&desc=&pagina=1& Quote Scusa se mi sono permesso di usare il tuo spazio 🤗 Non hai un tuo thread personale dove postare qualsiasi dubbio ti venga in mente e documentare la tua coltivazione? è un peccato! Se hai altre varietà da identificare del Mix Puro puoi postarle qui: http://www.pepperfriends.com/forum/topic/15299-pepper-del-mix/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 21, 2019 On 8/19/2019 at 6:01 AM, cmpman1974 said: Your photography is just excellent. Thanks, I try to get the best with the equipment I have, the photos aren't very artistic but of sufficient quality for good documentation. Quote The grow log is quite the sight to review Oban. Great grow-out !! Thanks Chris, having people like you and Rich here on the forum, is a source of great pride for a Pepperfriend like me. Quote On the other hand, the amount of pollen your flowers produces is amazing as well as compared to mine. Conditions must be absolutely ideal. They are all literally dripping pollen in your photos. Yeah, in the months of July and August I have the best environmental conditions for fruit setting. Very high temperatures during the day and cool during the evening, with an excellent temperature range between night and day (routes of 15° C or 20° C). My area is also characterized by incredible temperature ranges between summer and winter, in extreme cases these values can be recorded: On 1/6/2019 at 9:56 AM, Oban said: On 3/13/2018 at 4:16 PM, Oban said: On 8/4/2017 at 12:11 PM, Oban said: As for the display of potted plants, I chose the place that is irradiated before during the sunrise, it helps me to get a few more degrees in the coldest hours in the morning and this is even more important in the colder months of May and June, September and October. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 21, 2019 Bengle Naga X CAP 1478 (F1) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 21, 2019 C.flexuosum Rocoto Riesen Yellow X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB01 C.eximium, CAP 1491 Ghostly Jalapeno Rocoto Big Brown X C.sp NOT Leviathan Scorpion Gnarly (Red) Shabu Shabu Rocoto Aji Oro Jalapeno Mammoth X Jalapeno Tajin (F1) OB05 Bhut Jolokia CPI 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex.87 142 Posted August 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, Oban said: Lo escludo, gli Jals che coltivo quest'anno sono incroci tra due distinte varietà di Jalapeno, incroci eseguiti da me nel 2018... ...Ad ogni modo quello che stai coltivando è sicuramente uno Jalapeno Ho capito,do un occhiata grazie tante! 44 minutes ago, Oban said: Non hai un tuo thread personale dove postare qualsiasi dubbio ti venga in mente e documentare la tua coltivazione? è un peccato! No quest'anno ho seminato poca roba e non ho voluto far ridere con 5-6 piante 😁 L' anno prossimo si riparte alla grande e relazionerò tutto . Grazie per l'interessamento! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 25, 2019 Lazzaretto Abruzzese Lazzaretto Lazzaretto d'Abruzzi e Molise Lazzaretto d'Abruzzo, Lazio e Molise Lazzaretto del Giustizierato d'Abruzzo Lazzaretto nel Lazio Lazzaretto in Abruzzo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oban 9,508 Posted August 25, 2019 Ghostly Jalapeno Rocopica OB29 X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB01 Bhut Jolokia CPI Rocoto Big Brown X C.sp Rocoto Stolen Yellow X Rocoto Big Brown (F1) OB02 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
