Geez 282 Posted March 12, 2016 Rocotos. I can't call varieties. These are last year's plants. And I have forgotten to put labels when transplanting in the september. Later it will be visible. (White background is snow behind a window.... ) 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellas 5,545 Posted March 12, 2016 Wow Gala, fantastic photo. Very good P.s. where you live (living?) in Russia, Moscow? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted March 12, 2016 Wow Gala, fantastic photo. Very good P.s. where you live (living?) in Russia, Moscow? I live in the Orenburg region (far from Moscow, 1740 km to the east). The climate here is severer than that of Moscow. Though, this year the winter was rather soft, but very lasting... unwilling to recede. Grazie Danio ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincer 4,834 Posted March 12, 2016 Very beautiful photos!!! Ciao Vincenzo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellas 5,545 Posted March 12, 2016 Grazie Danio ! My pleasure 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted March 13, 2016 Mascapöcs, 25-30 days (after flowering). Color of fruits has begun to change. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted March 15, 2016 Mascapöcs, Today is the first time in this year when I taste a new (for me) variety. This pepper is quite hot (5-6 : 10), with nice flavor of annuum . I can't tell about indescribable delight, however it was pleasant to me. Besides, I like unpretentiousness of this plant. Now I have to look at it outdoor, to estimate productivity and draw final conclusions. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted May 13, 2016 Some yesterday's photos CGN 23255 (C.chinense) : Huacho amarillo \ PI 260484 (C. chinense) : Habanero Gambia (C.chinense) : HP22B (C.chinense) : Rio Ronuro Hot \ CGN 20803 (C.chinense) : 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joefish 5,021 Posted May 13, 2016 It seems you are going to have a nice harvest!! well done, Gala! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerasello 73 Posted May 13, 2016 Rocotos. I can't call varieties. These are last year's plants. And I have forgotten to put labels when transplanting in the september. Later it will be visible. (White background is snow behind a window.... ) The rocoto fruit looks pretty. Good. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellas 5,545 Posted May 13, 2016 Wonderful plants Gala, my compliments 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted May 14, 2016 Thank you for your good words and compliments! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted May 14, 2016 Last year I done several experiments on crossing of different variaties. It was my first experience of pollination. And at the same time it was the my first kit of different mistakes.I knew about all theoretical aspects of procedure for crossing, but I have ignored some. In particular, I didn't isolate of flowers after pollination. At that time it seemed to me that will be enough to remove stamens and petals (maternal flowers were semiclosed, with immature anthers). But now I have no absolute confidence who is a true father.So, now my report in detail...Chilito de Simojovel (C. annuum v. glabriusculum) Х Aji Catalan (C.baccatum)It has been so conceived....And here photos of the result: Now it is necessary to wait for maturing of fruits and to degust. The general view of a plant is very similar to maternal (Chilito de Simojovel (C. annuum v. glabriusculum)).There are no signs of C.baccatum.The violet edging of flowers disturbs very much. And it is the main reason of doubt in paternity. There is a probability that my attempt of pollination was unsuccessful and later there was a spontaneous pollination. But I have doubts too. I had one variety with violet flowers - PI 370006 (C. annuum). But the distance between these plants was about 4-5 meters. Effect of wind is excluded. Whether could attract a flower without petals of bees or other insects?Or nevertheless as a result merge of genes of glabriusculum and baccatum awoke the violet gene? My knowledges catastrophically isn't enough! And I hope for your comments. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rapace 9,668 Posted May 14, 2016 Ciao Gala, Congratulations for your pictures and plants..... everything wonderful Last year I done several experiments on crossing of different variaties. It was my first experience of pollination. And at the same time it was the my first kit of different mistakes.I knew about all theoretical aspects of procedure for crossing, but I have ignored some. In particular, I didn't isolate of flowers after pollination. At that time it seemed to me that will be enough to remove stamens and petals (maternal flowers were semiclosed, with immature anthers). But now I have no absolute confidence who is a true father.Chilito de Simojovel (C. annuum v. glabriusculum) Х Aji Catalan (C.baccatum)INow it is necessary to wait for maturing of fruits and to degust. The general view of a plant is very similar to maternal (Chilito de Simojovel (C. annuum v. glabriusculum)).There are no signs of C.baccatum.The violet edging of flowers disturbs very much. And it is the main reason of doubt in paternity. There is a probability that my attempt of pollination was unsuccessful and later there was a spontaneous pollination. But I have doubts too. I had one variety with violet flowers - PI 370006 (C. annuum). But the distance between these plants was about 4-5 meters. Effect of wind is excluded. Whether could attract a flower without petals of bees or other insects?Or nevertheless as a result merge of genes of glabriusculum and baccatum awoke the violet gene? My knowledges catastrophically isn't enough! And I hope for your comments. Frankly.... my opinion is that plant has no sign of Capsicum baccatum 4 or 5 metres of distance are nothing outdoor (some insects can fly for kilomethers....). The cross you hypothized with that variety with violet flowers is quite probable. I don't think your attempt to cross with C.baccatum wasn't successfull is quite simple...... C.baccatum varieties has the tipical yellow spots on the petals..... according to my information this genes are dominant... it means that in F1 generation they should appears on the flowers of the hybrid... while I don't see any sign of them in the picture you posted. Of course also the presence of violet colour is another clear signal. The alternative is that the plants you crossed where not pure and the result is coming from some genes which where present in the parents (even if not evident in them). I think this is not probable.More simply your tentative hybridation wasn't successfull and the result you obtain (it has very nice flowers anyway !) is not the one you planned. Ciao ! Carlo 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted May 15, 2016 Ciao Carlo, Many thanks for your explanation ! The alternative version (about plants which not pure) didn't came to my mind. But actually, it's unlikely... In other words, if to allow such possibility, then it is always necessary to doubt about the purity of all plants. The conclusion is clear: I need to make a correction of mistakes. I hope, will have chance in this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Federico14 212 Posted May 15, 2016 Wonderful plants Gala!!! Do you have any recent picture of Chiclayo х Aji Cristal F1 ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lonewolf 18,624 Posted May 15, 2016 There are no signs of C.baccatum. I think that yellow spots in C.baccatum flowers should be a dominant character, so they should always be present in a crossing involving this species. I'm not 100% sure of this, we will ask to Gabor Csillèry during our Congress in October (he will do a presentation just on genetics of crossing) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted May 17, 2016 I think that yellow spots in C.baccatum flowers should be a dominant character, so they should always be present in a crossing involving this species. I'm not 100% sure of this, we will ask to Gabor Csillèry during our Congress in October (he will do a presentation just on genetics of crossing) Many thanks! I didn't know that yellow spots have dominant character in the interspecific crossings with involvement of C.baccatum. And this new knowledge is very important for me. Certainly, October Congress will be interesting and will be of great importance for many fans of pepper around the world! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted May 17, 2016 Wonderful plants Gala!!! Do you have any recent picture of Chiclayo х Aji Cristal F1 ? Thanks, Federico! I didn't make the photos of this plant. There is nothing interesting to show. Plants develop very slowly. Last year I had a similar mutant (pnoto). The plant has reached only 20-25 cm during the season and hasn't survived transplantation in the autumn. As far as I know, plants with such deviations have many problems in cultivation. Flowering may be in the second\third year (or never). I saw in your thread a plant with similar characteristics (Tabasco X Hot Lemon) . Let's observe our plants together. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Federico14 212 Posted May 18, 2016 Thanks, Federico! I didn't make the photos of this plant. There is nothing interesting to show. Plants develop very slowly. Last year I had a similar mutant (pnoto). The plant has reached only 20-25 cm during the season and hasn't survived transplantation in the autumn. As far as I know, plants with such deviations have many problems in cultivation. Flowering may be in the second\third year (or never). I saw in your thread a plant with similar characteristics (Tabasco X Hot Lemon) . Let's observe our plants together. Last year plant is very interesting, now I've a clear idea on how these plants will develope. Was that the same cross Chiclayo х Aji Cristal F1 ? Or did you make other crosses in the past years? With similar characteristics I also have Beni Highlands X Lemon drop ( Chinense x Baccatum ) I will follow your work 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted May 20, 2016 Was that the same cross Chiclayo х Aji Cristal F1 ? No, there was a usual variety C. chinense. I don't know the reason of such mutations. Sometimes it happen, however, these is insufficiently. It is necessary to have greatest luck or greatest patience for further successful cultivation of such plants. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted May 20, 2016 Cereja \ BGH 1710 \ PI 441560 (C.baccatum) 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted June 10, 2016 I will follow your work Federico, especially for you By the way, other plant became almost normal now. Leaves have the usual form. And only very slow growth of a plant testifies about defect. Yesterday I haven't managed to photograph other plant because strong wind was in a garden. There were several cold nights (+5-7ºC). And leaves of some peppers have got anthocyan pigmentation. In general, the current period is quite difficult for plants because there is very big oscillations amplitude between daytime and night temperatures. Dwarf Chiltepin (C. annuum v. glabriusculum) : Puta Pario de Uruguay (C. sp.) : NuMex Vaquero (C. annuum) : NuMex Lemon Spice (C. annuum) : NuMex Pumpkin Spice (C. annuum) : And,,, Rocoto Giant 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellas 5,545 Posted June 10, 2016 My compliments Gala, you have weighed Rocoto giant fruit? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geez 282 Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks Danio No, I have forgotten to weigh this fruit. But in reality it was not too large. It's 5-6 cm in diameter and 4-5 mm in thickness. And... it was really delicious! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites